Starting Issues - Poss Central Locking/immobiliser Related

[arogers]

 Hi

 

Please help.

 

I have a ford galaxy that has been standing for over 12 month because of starting issues and I can't find anyone to help me.

 

The problem first started intermittently. Occasionally I would turn the key and the car would just turn over and not fire up. I would lock unlock the doors a few times and it would fire up and off to go and that would be it for a while. Gradually the problem got worse and then the car cut out on me on 2 different occasions and refused to restart no matter how much I fiddled with the locks, Just turned over.

 

The only key I have for it does not remotely control the locking but has a button on it which used to have a little light (like a little torch but that no longer works)

 

The drivers door lock is faulty and sticks or just doesn't work so I used to try and just open the car from the passenger side.

 

I Read on one of these forums that I should have a look at the alarm light on the door and after 2 minutes it will flash out a sequence -  the sequence was 6:2 which I believe is  a communication error between the pats and the ecu??

 

Also just to further complicate things, my son who is a trainee mechanic tried to jump start the car to have a fiddle and crossed the terminals blowing a few fuses and the central locking stopped working altogether -  the car started perfectly every single time. He has since replaced all the blown fuse/s and now the car will not start at all again.

 

I have read about relay 30 etc and the possibility of the central locking module being under the passenger seat and flooded etc but I can't help thinking the problem is centred around that faulty driver door central locking (a new issue is that when you lock/ unlock the car the front windows open???)

 

Do I admit defeat and scrap the car - other than this issue it i

 

PS we tried changing the starter motor - it didn't help

Edited November 21, 2013 by arogers

[seatkid]

Check the wires in the rubber gaitors to the driver/passenger doors. Shorts here cause all sorts of wierd problems.

[SilverBeast]

Check the wires in the rubber gaitors to the driver/passenger doors. Shorts here cause all sorts of wierd problems.

Seconded.

 

Try disconnecting them one at a time and seeing if you can start the car after each. This may highlight which one is the problem, though drivers is most likely.  Don't forget to check the wiring in the hatch gaitor (drivers side) too.

[BrianH]

 Hi

 

Please help.

 

I have a ford galaxy that has been standing for over 12 month because of starting issues and I can't find anyone to help me.

 

The problem first started intermittently. Occasionally I would turn the key and the car would just turn over and not fire up. I would lock unlock the doors a few times and it would fire up and off to go and that would be it for a while. Gradually the problem got worse and then the car cut out on me on 2 different occasions and refused to restart no matter how much I fiddled with the locks, Just turned over.

 

The only key I have for it does not remotely control the locking but has a button on it which used to have a little light (like a little torch but that no longer works)

 

The drivers door lock is faulty and sticks or just doesn't work so I used to try and just open the car from the passenger side.

 

I Read on one of these forums that I should have a look at the alarm light on the door and after 2 minutes it will flash out a sequence -  the sequence was 6:2 which I believe is  a communication error between the pats and the ecu??

 

Also just to further complicate things, my son who is a trainee mechanic tried to jump start the car to have a fiddle and crossed the terminals blowing a few fuses and the central locking stopped working altogether -  the car started perfectly every single time. He has since replaced all the blown fuse/s and now the car will not start at all again.

 

I have read about relay 30 etc and the possibility of the central locking module being under the passenger seat and flooded etc but I can't help thinking the problem is centred around that faulty driver door central locking (a new issue is that when you lock/ unlock the car the front windows open???)

 

Do I admit defeat and scrap the car - other than this issue it i

 

PS we tried changing the starter motor - it didn't help

 

The door locks activate a pair of microswitches that do the window opening that the galaxy features. You can just disconnect the switches to stop this if it doesn't turn out to be wires in the gaiter.

 

Relay 30 may show up if you have odd behavior from the red led on the drivers door. May be possible to re solder the joints inside it as others have reported success with doing this.